#77 – A Fat Man Smoking Cigarettes In The Rain

Nick and James talk about having too much empathy, being too famous, the neurological rationale for being a pedant, and handling fear of death and IT in children.

Things that may help with this episode:
“Dreamweaver” by Sabbat – Wikipedia / Amazon
“The Kenneth Williams Diaries” by Kenneth Williams & Russell Davies – Amazon

Reply All: “#14 – The Art Of Making And Fixing Mistakes” – link
The Worst Idea Of All Time - link
It’s Science, Bitch! – link

Leonard Nimoy – Wikipedia / IMDB / RIP
Dapper Laughs – Wikipedia
Jim Davidson – Wikipedia
Nick Bateman – Wikipedia
Kenneth Williams – Wikipedia / IMDB
Peppa Pig – Wikipedia

Noah watching My Neighbour Totoro

Noah watching My Neighbour Totoro

The Rugrats Movie – IMDB / Amazon

#76 – A Lumpy Trip

Nick and James talk about shame eating, and how their experiences wouldn’t make good sitcoms.

Things that may help with this episode:
The Professionals – IMDB / Amazon

The Professionals

The Professionals

The Office UK – IMDB / Amazon
The Office US – IMDB / Amazon
“Simply The Best” by Tina Turner – YouTube

Nathan Barley – IMDB / Amazon

“Men do cry: one man’s experience of depression” by Matt Haig – Guardian

Basingstoke – Wikipedia

Adam Savage’s One Day Builds – YouTube

#75 – Unchained From A Lunatic

From an impromptu recording studio in a big echoey box high above the earth, Nick worries about holding a baby, and James holds it all together remarkably well, despite bringing up Russell Brand.

Things that may help with this episode:
Community – IMDB / Amazon
George Melly - Wikipedia
“David Cameron rap” by Cassetteboy – YouTube
Charlie Brooker’s 2014 Wipe – YouTube
Russell Brand – Wikipedia

Russell Brand

Russell Brand

Charlie Brooker – Wikipedia

Charlie Brooker

Charlie Brooker

Jake Thackray – Wikipedia / Amazon

I mean, I’d never heard of him before, but this looks beautiful:

Professor Jack Darcy – Twitter / YouTube

Bad News – Wikipedia / YouTube
This Is Spinal Tap – Wikipedia / Amazon
“At Least I Was Here” by – YouTube / Amazon

Really love this song:

Breaking Bad S02E06: “Peekaboo” – IMDB / YouTube
The L Word – Wikipedia / IMDB / Amazon

Actually, YouTube really loves Shane off The L Word:

Justified – IMDB / Amazon

Raylan Givens and Boyd Crowder talk good (spoilers for early seasons):

#74 – Homoerotic Audrey Hepburn

Nick and James talk therapy, and mental health, and child-vomit.

Listener! As you know, you are a trained psychiatric professional! Will you tell us, won’t you please: Is Batman a psychopath or sociopath? Or something else altogether?

Actual useful links:
Occupational Health – Wikipedia / link
MIND – link
Cognitive Behaviour Therapy – Wikipedia
Psychodynamic psychotherapy – Wikipedia
YMCA – link

Things that may help with this episode:
Between Two Ferns – link
Zach Galifianakis – Wikipedia / IMDB / Amazon
Fern Britton – Wikipedia
Fearne Cotton – Wikipedia
The Two Ronnies – Wikipedia
Morecambe & Wise – Wikipedia
Adam & Joe – Wikipedia

Fork Candles:

(Oh, also there’s this, which I’d never heard before, but it’s fun:)

NHS – Wikipedia

Knight Industries 2000:

KITT and Michael Knight

KITT and Michael Knight

(Or here – Wikipedia)

Viper Mark 2:

Viper Mk 2

Viper Mk 2

NCIS – IMDB / Amazon
Saw 1-7 – IMDB / Amazon
Bottle Episode - Wikipedia

“YMCA” by The Village People:

Breaking Bad – IMDB / Amazon
Breaking Bat:

Knightfall by Kelley Jones

Bane, osteopath extraordinaire by Kelley Jones

Natter – link

#73 – Interesting Times And SJWs

Nick and James sit around the Gillie dinner table, and talk about, among other things, cartoons, Tony Blair, and telling your child about tidying etiquette.

A Mad Mad Mad Mad World – IMDBYouTube
Tim and Max Learnt Everything They Know About Life From Popular Culture Episode 1: Childhood, Play and Learning – link
Battle Of The Planets – IMDB

The opening titles for Battle Of The Planets strikes a chord with anyone of a certain age and set of preoccupations:

Joe 90 – IMDB

The Joe 90 opening titles, in which he sits emotionless in a giant metal womb, ready to rebirth him into the world as a different persona, in case you weren’t quite creeped out enough right now:

Leigh Alexander’s Games Now! talk - link
John Hodgman’s 23 tweets – Salon

#72 – Too Cosy A Home In Your Heart

Nick and James do a Skype. The intention is to do a really short episode that can ease everybody from the two excellent Gillie Family episodes to the normal dour Two Grown Men Bang On state of affairs.

But that doesn’t happen. Music, anxiety, depression, cynicism and wanking. That’s the secret formula, and in this episode it properly takes hold.

Things that may help with this episode:

Macaulay Culkin’s “oh” face:

Macaulay Culkin

“When I See An Elephant Fly” from Dumbo:

(There’s a great discussion in the comments about the difference between “stereotypical” and “racist” that you should definitely read. If you don’t mind losing IQ points and hating everything.)

“Around The World In A Day” by Prince – Amazon / Wikipedia
“Violent Femmes” by Violent Femmes – Amazon / Wikipedia
“Once In A Lifetime: The Best Of The Talking Heads” by Talking Heads -  Amazon
“Once In A Lifetime” by Kermit The Frog -  YouTube

Actually, here’s that video in full, because it’s bloody odd and ace:

Down And Out In Beverly Hills – Amazon / IMDB
“Big Yellow Taxi” by Joni Mitchell – Amazon / Wikipedia
“(Nothing But) Flowers” by Talking Heads – YouTube / Amazon

Actually, this video is worth seeing. Pretty great, especially considering when it came out:

“The Beach” by Alex Garland – Amazon
“Save The Whale” by Nik Kershaw – Amazon
“The Riddle” by Nik Kershaw – Amazon / Wikipedia
“Elastic Heart” by Sia – YouTube / Amazon

Nick’s clearly obsessed with this, and as it’s him typing RIGHT AT THIS SECOND, here it is:

Sam Binnie on the video to Sia’s “Elastic Heart” – link

Dumsnet episode 1 – link
Start-up #12, “Burnout” – link

“Too Drunk To Fuck” by The Dead Kennedys – YouTube / Amazon
Sheep On Drugs – Wikipedia / Amazon
“Jesus Built My Hotrod” by Ministry – YouTube / Amazon
“This Is How It Feels” by Inspiral Carpets – YouTube / Amazon

#71 – Who’s Finlay?

It’s the second special Gillie family episode of 2 Grown Men, so it seems a good time to update the FAQ. James gets started, by asking Scarlet and Nicola some Very Important Questions. To varying levels of success.

Show notes

Rose Road – link
Pam Ayres – Wikipedia
“Opposites Attract” by Paula Abdul & DJ Skat Cat – YouTube

Maybe you don’t know “Opposites Attract”? It’s this:

Less Important:
Sarah Millican – Wikipedia
Alan Carr – Wikipedia

Michael Bublé – Wikipedia / Amazon
Hugh John Mungo Grant – Wikipedia / IMDB
Maybe you don’t know Hugh John Mungo Grant? This is him:


(He’s dreamy. Look at that cute awkward sort of head to the side, askance shoulders thing he’s got going on. He’s definitely more a “Jim” than a “Dwight”, isn’t he? If he were a Friends, he’d almost certainly be a “Chandler”.)

#70 – A Family Tragedy

Episode 70 is a very special show for our first of 2015 – Nick is ill, so James has two guests, one of whom gives pretty much the best advice you will ever get on making a podcast in the first five minutes. James also talks about his Christmas, and we get a new and sincerely important insight onto his current state of mind.

Apologies in advance for your ears – James failed to manage one of his guests, who was by all accounts a bit of a hell-raiser.

Also, this episode defies show-noting. Defies them, I tell you! This is not a normal episode of 2 Grown Men, so of course we’ll provide full refunds to anyone who wants one. But it is a delight from start to finish. A DELIGHT!

Hopefully back to normal next week!

#69 – Unicorn Heaven

In a very special episode, recorded at James’ tea table, James and Nick take guidance from their significant others (all four of them), discuss illness, the overstretched NHS, and equine classification. Merry New Year!

Lando Calrissian is all sex. I mean, look at him:

Lando Calrissian is all sex. (Found on the internet)

Lando Calrissian is all sex.
(Found on the internet)

Correction… we weren’t a bit “Two Ronnies-ey” in #68, we were a bit “Alas Smith And Jones-ey”

Morecambe and Wise – Wikipedia
Morecambe and Wise the Whole Story Full documentary 2013 – YouTube
Sindy – Wikipedia
Action Man – Wikipedia

Photo found on www.vectis.co.uk

Photo found on www.vectis.co.uk

From Dictionary.com:

Examples Word Origin
1. Biology. The living together of two dissimilar organisms, as in mutualism, commensalism, amensalism, or parasitism.
2. Psychiatry. A relationship between two people in which each person is dependent upon and receives reinforcement, whether beneficial or detrimental, from the other.
3. Psychoanalysis. The relationship between an infant and its mother in which the infant is dependent on the mother both physically and emotionally.
4. Any interdependent or mutually beneficial relationship between two persons, groups, etc.

#68 – The German Word For Schadenfreude

Alternative titles: Shitty Pretty Dress Sayings and Nasty Nicey Talk

Nick and James talk about loads of different stuff, but fail to talk about Christmas until the very end.

The good news is it’s longer than usual! But the bad news is the sound quality is awful! Our recording situation was different from usual, and there was no way of doing a soundcheck. Sorry, everyone!

James’ amazing onion tweet that didn’t get nearly enough love is here!

Show Notes
Alas Smith & Jones – Wikipedia / YouTube
“Sarah Silverman, Howard Kremer, Ngaio Bealum, Dan Harmon & James Adomian” on Getting Doug with High – YouTube
“I’ve Been Listening To Serial” by Zach Sherwin – YouTube
“The Muppet Show” by OK Go! – YouTube
“Rocking Around The Christmas Tree” by Mel & Kim – YouTube
Magnumcast - iTunes
The Teaches Of Peaches by Peaches – Wikipedia / Amazon
American Splendor trailer – YouTube
The Green Album – Wikipedia / Amazon

Mel Smith – Wikipedia
Griff Rhys Jones – Wikipedia
Tilda Swinton – Wikipedia / IMDB
Jude Law – Wikipedia / IMDB
Brian Molko – Wikipedia
Placebo – Wikipedia / Amazon
Alex Dawson – Twitter / blog
Sam Neill – Wikipedia / IMDB
Sarah Silverman – Wikipedia / YouTube
OK Go – Wikipedia / Amazon
The Go! Team – Wikipedia / Amazon
King Edward VI School, Southampton – website
Loot Crate – Twitterlink

Voyager 2 – Wikipedia
Music on Voyager 2: Mozart, Blind Willie Johnson, Chuck Berry’s Johnny B. Goode, Valya Balkanska and others.

Further reading:
“Hart in Hampshire remains UK’s most desirable place” – BBC
Southampton City, including Southampton Common - https://goo.gl/maps/akBhK
“Vandals Attack Jewish Graves” by Nick Walker – The Independent
“How A Tree Trunk Sounds On A Record Player” by Jamie Condliffe – link